Joy Outside

This is a podcast by Justice Outside sharing stories from our community, centering the experiences and wisdom of Black, Indigenous, and People of Color in the outdoors and environmental movement. Hosted by our Communications and Advocacy team, the podcast will also share tips and tricks about enjoying the outdoors, whether that’s through exploring your backyard, hiking, skiing, or in any other way.

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Episode 6: The Power of Indigenous, Black, and Network Leaders of Color

Mo Henigman, Justice Outside’s Movement Network Coordinator* speaks with Blanca Hernandez, a Network for Network Leader. Blanca discusses the importance of networks and network leaders in her life and for Black, Indigenous, and Communities of Color working to expand equitable access to the outdoors. She also shares impactful memories in the outdoors that have shaped her understanding of equity in the environmental sector.

The full episode transcript can be found ⁠here⁠.

To learn more about YES Nature to Neighborhoods, click ⁠here⁠. This is the ⁠article⁠ “Creating Networks for Survival and Mobility: Social Capital Among African-American and Latin-American Low-Income Mothers” by Silvia Dominguez and Celeste Watkins-Hayes. This is the ⁠Social Change Map⁠ by Deepa Iyer. The apps Blanca recommends are ⁠AllTrails⁠ and ⁠iNaturalist⁠.

To learn about the Network for Network Leadership program, click ⁠here⁠.

To learn more about Justice Outside’s work and our programs to increase access to the outdoors for Black, Indigenous, and People of Color, click ⁠here⁠.

Theme music by Joseph Powers

Design assets prepared by ⁠LQL Photo + Design⁠

Audio editing by Cha’vez Gaitan

*Since the episode was recorded, Mo Heningman no longer works at Justice Outside and we have their permission to release this episode. Thank you Mo!

Episode 5: Belonging and Safety in the Backcountry for Black, Indigenous, and Explorers of Color

We speak with Amelia Vigil, Liberated Paths: Youth Access to Nature Grant and Program Manager, about their long relationship with the backcountry and outdoors industry, prompting them to want to create safe, accessible, and inclusive spaces for Black, Indigenous, and Youth of Color. They explain the changes they have witnessed and changes they hope to see in the industry.

You can find the episode transcript ⁠here⁠.

The book Amelia referred to is Spirits of the Earth by Bobby Lake-Thom.

To learn about the Liberated Paths: Youth Access to Nature Fund, click here.

To learn more about Justice Outside’s work and our programs to increase access to the outdoors for Black, Indigenous, and People of Color, click here.

Theme music by Joseph Powers
Design assets prepared by LQL Photo + Design
Audio editing by Cha’vez Gaitan

Episode 4: Go Out There and Adventure

We speak with Laura Hernandez, Outdoor Educators Institute Program Coordinator,  about their evolving connection with the outdoors through plant medicine and outdoor education. They discuss the importance of inclusive and safe spaces for young Black, Indigenous, and People of Color to build and explore connections with the outdoors.

The full episode transcript can be found ⁠here⁠.

To learn about the Outdoor Educators Institute, click here.

To learn more about Justice Outside’s work and our programs to increase access to the outdoors for Black, Indigenous, and People of Color, click here.

Theme music by Joseph Powers
Design assets prepared by LQL Photo + Design
Audio editing by Cha’vez Gaitan

Episode 3: It’s Our Time to be Trailblazers

We speak with Kim Moore Bailey, Justice Outside President and Chief Executive Officer, about her love of the outdoors since childhood. She shares key moments, conversations, and ideas that have guided her to shape Justice Outside into what it is today, as well as tips for Black, Indigenous, and People of Color people working in the field. She reminds us that trails have been blazed before, and there are many of us to continue the work.

The full episode transcript can be found here.

The book Kim mentioned is Becoming.

The report Kim referred to is “Examining Disparities in Environmental Grantmaking: Where the Money Goes” by Dr. Dorceta E. Taylor and Molly Blondell.

To learn more about Justice Outside’s work and our programs to increase access to the outdoors for Black, Indigenous, and People of Color, click here.

Theme music by Joseph Powers
Design assets prepared by LQL Photo + Design
Audio editing by Cha’vez Gaitan

Episode 2: Elevating, Amplifying, and Funding Leadership of Color

We speak with Rena Payan, Director of Grantmaking, about the radical and restorative grantmaking program she has helped create at Justice Outside. She discusses the historical barriers for Black, Indigenous, and organizations of Color in traditional grantmaking and how an accessible, equitable alternative is possible. She also shares about her personal connection to the outdoors and how she’s nurtured it throughout her life. 

The full episode transcript can be found here.

To learn more about our Liberated Paths grantmaking, click here.

The phrase Rena referred to, “Nothing about us without us”, stems from the disability justice movement. Learn more here

To learn more about Justice Outside’s work and our programs to increase access to the outdoors for Black, Indigenous, and People of Color, click here.

Theme music by Joseph Powers
Design assets prepared by LQL Photo + Design
Audio editing by Cha’vez Gaitan

Episode 1: The Power of Community to Transform the Outdoors Movement

For our first episode, we speak with Danielle Wolfrum, our Director of Development. She shares how her relationship to the outdoors has evolved and her experience working in environmental non-profits as a Woman of Color. She highlights the importance of community-oriented relationship building and fundraising. The full episode transcript can be found here. To learn more about community-centric fundraising, click here.

The line of poetry Noorjahan mentions in the podcast comes from the great Sufi poet Maulana Jalaludin Balkhi’s Masnawi Manawi written in Persian in the 13th century. The verse Noorjahan mentions is linked here. It’s the fourth verse. Though the English translation of the poem uses the pronoun “he” to refer to the subject, in Persian a gender neutral pronoun is used. In the United States, Maulana Jalaludin Balkhi is known as Rumi.

The book Danielle mentioned is Seek You: A Journey Through American Loneliness. 

To learn more about Justice Outside’s work including our grantmaking and our programs to increase access to the outdoors for Black, Indigenous, and People of Color, click here.

Theme music by Joseph Powers
Design assets prepared by LQL Photo + Design
Audio editing by Cha’vez Gaitan